Originally Posted by k19

Well, Mr. Zyca, I put some words under another topic for you, but been accused "off topic". Anyways, I will paste it here. (People care about off topic more than reading some interesting thought here)

So, exactly how I, as a Chinese, understand the Taiwan issue? Here it is:
A simple way of understanding it:

You know what? 23 million people decide to take the shame to disband their country's 92% of the land does not means 1.3 billion others have to take the same shame to lose that 8 percent. That is the problem and that is the reality. Taiwan’s constitutions do include mainland as part of their territory even now isn't it?! Willing to cut their own land, own history for “freedom”? What a guts move!

Originally Posted by k19

You can argue about two different systems and me too, I do agree, and you can take it as an excuse to keep the way it is for now, but this is not the excuse to go independence. Separatists attend to paint china as a threat to Taiwan, but, ignore the fact that china does not demand an immediately uniting of the Taiwan region by force or other, but they can’t hide their attempts to separate the land, which is the key point of why china keeps their military option open. Decades of not firing a single shot at the region is a great achievement because Taiwan does not go free, simple as that. Both sides can even sat down and talk peacefully because of that, so who is really responsible for the worsened situation? What can really benefit both sides and even the Americans? Keep the way it is, help the mainland change to a more free society, and keep the nation united, no independence, no invasion, and no worry. Isn’t it what a real Chinese should do? China’s worry is not some contradiction without prove, the separatists movement is a clear threat to the peace of the region.

I even more than happy to see Taiwanese come to the mainland and liberate us one day! It is not impossible; you know what is so great about Chinese society? They can adopt communism, but not follow the rules, make their own modification, and they can adopt market economy as well, they sure can adopt democracy one day in the future, the Chinese way. I always respect the S/N Koreans, because they can point guns to each other but not denying their root and blood, Germans also. Have the guts to go independents, but don't have the willing to help out their own kind?

To the worst, what if china lost Taiwan?? Diaoyu Island goes to the Japanese next? Give up the east Chinese sea to Japanese as well? Lose South China Sea to others? Will china have to live the shame again like the 1840's to get the whole Chinese civilization to unite once more???!!! Seriously, my Taiwanese friends, what is so great about defending those separatist anyways? They brought fire to the region, they brought uncertainty, they brought war to us, they cost both sides taxpayer’s money to build up weapons to against each other, and they should not live in this land!

You know what? When the Japanese announced that officially taken over the light house on the Diaoyu Island, what is Taiwan’s reaction? It’s hard to have a reaction to the "friendly Japanese" when your former president is a 1/4 Japanese and agree with them isn't it? Or seeking protection from them in exchange??!! Look at the map man, it is an island only one step away from Taiwan and big as* way to the Japanese! Compare to the South Korean took their island back from the Japanese years ago, that wasn't impressed Chinese people at all!

What exactly is the card role Taiwan play here to the Chinese? None, Chinese needs it to survive! Well, I hope Chinese from both sides can one day finally realize the overall outcome, unite once more, this is the only way that the Chinese will not being played with by others to against each other for their entertainment and interests. It’s time to think ourselves!