Topic: India and Pakistan

Xion · March 2nd, 2005

this topic is again going to get locked because of sexybeasts offtopic provocations, some info for overly proud sexybeast on how original china's warplanes are -

H-5 - Chinese built Russian Il-28.

H-6 - Chinese built Russian Tu-16.

J-6 - A Chinese built copy of the MiG-19. An inexpensive alternative for less wealthy nations, including China. Only carries a half ton of bombs.

J-7 - A Chinese built copy of the MiG-21.

J-8 - Chinese two engine variant of the MiG-21. China's first attempt at building their own aircraft. But it was not a very original or successful effort. Can carry about three tons of bombs.

J-9 - A development project based on MiG-29 technology. The Chinese aircraft industry is pushing this one, but the air force is resisting.

J-10 - Basically the Israeli Lavi (a F-16 clone Israel was forced to abandon in the 1980s because of money problems.) China appears to have obtained the technology from Israel, and an F-16 obtained from Pakistan. China is obtaining the high performance jet engine from Russia. The electronics may be obtained from Israel (secretly, as the U.S. will raise a stink if the Israelis try to do it openly), or from Russia. America has the best stuff, but this technology will have to be stolen.
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J-11 - Chinese designation for the Russian Su-27. China is also assembling Su-27s from Russian parts. Some modifications already apparent are a greater emphasis on the Su-27s bombing capability.
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J-12 - New Chinese design, not expected to enter service until 2015. The J-12 is an attempt to design and build an F-22 class fighter. The Chinese will have to acquire a lot of new technology (legally from Russia, illegally from the U.S. and semi-legally from Israel) to pull this off. If they do it, this will be the first home grown Chinese warplane.

March 2nd, 2005
Xion Centurion	this topic is again going to get locked because of sexybeasts offtopic provocations, some info for overly proud sexybeast on how original china's warplanes are - H-5 - Chinese built Russian Il-28. H-6 - Chinese built Russian Tu-16. J-6 - A Chinese built copy of the MiG-19. An inexpensive alternative for less wealthy nations, including China. Only carries a half ton of bombs. J-7 - A Chinese built copy of the MiG-21. J-8 - Chinese two engine variant of the MiG-21. China's first attempt at building their own aircraft. But it was not a very original or successful effort. Can carry about three tons of bombs. J-9 - A development project based on MiG-29 technology. The Chinese aircraft industry is pushing this one, but the air force is resisting. J-10 - Basically the Israeli Lavi (a F-16 clone Israel was forced to abandon in the 1980s because of money problems.) China appears to have obtained the technology from Israel, and an F-16 obtained from Pakistan. China is obtaining the high performance jet engine from Russia. The electronics may be obtained from Israel (secretly, as the U.S. will raise a stink if the Israelis try to do it openly), or from Russia. America has the best stuff, but this technology will have to be stolen. Return to Warplanes Database J-11 - Chinese designation for the Russian Su-27. China is also assembling Su-27s from Russian parts. Some modifications already apparent are a greater emphasis on the Su-27s bombing capability. Return to Warplanes Database J-12 - New Chinese design, not expected to enter service until 2015. The J-12 is an attempt to design and build an F-22 class fighter. The Chinese will have to acquire a lot of new technology (legally from Russia, illegally from the U.S. and semi-legally from Israel) to pull this off. If they do it, this will be the first home grown Chinese warplane. __________________ You can either agree with me or be wrong!