Originally Posted by EuroSpike

"Finland had later also a short range projectile beeing used on the 7.62x39 as well as on the 7.62x53R rifle cartridge. It consisted just of an empty projectile jacket which was drawn in one piece and had a closed base and an open tip (0.5-1mm) and looked like a round nose projectile. It also had a knurling for marking.
Beside all this Finland made countless prototypes in 7.62x39 with plastic cartridges (PT - plastic training) in various colors and also some with brass cases and plastic projectiles on them."

PT cartridges were replaced by platzpatronen with wooden bullets in 80s if i remember right but there has been no PTs in use for long time and those platzpatronen are made in 7.62x53r too because PKM uses them and they are needed in combat excercises.

Wooden bullets just won't work as live combat ammunition and that can be easily proven by using mathematics and physical science and computer aided simulations and researching engineers are't stupid. The whole idea is mindless and what would happen those rounds if the get even a bit wet in rain?

Using short range projectiles along standard ammunition would only cause problems with logistic and thats why different calibres and ammo types have been kept only in few ones and old for example LMG62 uses the same 762x39 round as other assault rifles in the squad and platoon.

Aluminiun core round "ALS-round" is used and issued sometimes in live round excersises because it's lower price. It has lower penetration but is a good ammunition in ranges 0-150m, almost no recoil is very positive feature.


What markings are on the bottoms of rounds and what reads on the ammo boxes (capacity 30rnds)? On the cartridge's bottoms should be marking "VPT" and manufacturing year and on ammo boxes ammunition's ID key should start with letters "JVA".