Post; New military rifle concept?

bushpig1998 · December 29th, 2004

I may be out of line with this post, but it is something I daydream about and may stirr some interesting discussions...If it is out of line, please delete the thread...

Ok, I'm working on a theory for an assault rifle. The basic concept is along the lines of a MAC10 or AK47, but on a slightly smaller scale.
I was thinking something that could be manufactured easily and cheaply, and carried as a backup weapon.
The basic equipment list for a SF unit would look something like this:
3 Weapons:
Weapon 1 - long range weapon. Semi Auto 7.62 NATO FAL, G3 with 2 Magazines and optics for general operator - specialized members of the team carry either stinger, anti-armor or sniper/anti material weapon in this slot. Weapon 2 and 3 still apply. When not using weapon 1, weapons 2 and 3 are employed.

Weapon 2 - close in weapon. Full Auto, small calibre with 6 Magazines.No Optics - optional silencer

Weapon 3 - sidearm. 9mm or same calibre as weapon 2 - if possible at all.

I want to focus on weapon 2. While the P90 would fit the bill nicely, it is too heavy and uses a non standard round. I initially thought of a +P 9mm round, but since this would bridge the gap between weapon 1 and 3, the range of a 9mm round would not be sufficient. It would have to be something along the lines of the .223 or similar. While I realize that there are hundreds of weapons out there that are close to what I'm thinking of, none of them actually match it 100%.
I guess this question goes to the very experienced military personnel out there:
1. Would you agree that the 3 weapon system for the average SF soldier is sound, and would it hold a benefit?
2. What calibre would you advise for weapon 2?

Let's hear the ideas?

December 29th, 2004
bushpig1998 Optio	Post; New military rifle concept? I may be out of line with this post, but it is something I daydream about and may stirr some interesting discussions...If it is out of line, please delete the thread... Ok, I'm working on a theory for an assault rifle. The basic concept is along the lines of a MAC10 or AK47, but on a slightly smaller scale. I was thinking something that could be manufactured easily and cheaply, and carried as a backup weapon. The basic equipment list for a SF unit would look something like this: 3 Weapons: Weapon 1 - long range weapon. Semi Auto 7.62 NATO FAL, G3 with 2 Magazines and optics for general operator - specialized members of the team carry either stinger, anti-armor or sniper/anti material weapon in this slot. Weapon 2 and 3 still apply. When not using weapon 1, weapons 2 and 3 are employed. Weapon 2 - close in weapon. Full Auto, small calibre with 6 Magazines.No Optics - optional silencer Weapon 3 - sidearm. 9mm or same calibre as weapon 2 - if possible at all. I want to focus on weapon 2. While the P90 would fit the bill nicely, it is too heavy and uses a non standard round. I initially thought of a +P 9mm round, but since this would bridge the gap between weapon 1 and 3, the range of a 9mm round would not be sufficient. It would have to be something along the lines of the .223 or similar. While I realize that there are hundreds of weapons out there that are close to what I'm thinking of, none of them actually match it 100%. I guess this question goes to the very experienced military personnel out there: 1. Would you agree that the 3 weapon system for the average SF soldier is sound, and would it hold a benefit? 2. What calibre would you advise for weapon 2? Let's hear the ideas?