Originally Posted by AZ_Infantry
Y'all are constantly trying to define divinity - you're putting a box around something you don't understand so you can understand it.
And you do understand all of this. Despite the fact that in 2000+ years no one has ever been able to produce a single shred of evidence to support your point of view?
(senojekips: I know you'll enjoy that book VERY much, as you're a thinker. We disagree on this subject, you and I, but we have never once engaged each other in anything but the utmost respect and politeness to our individual right to belief. I understand that your mind will not be turned, so that is not the purpose of this recommendation - I just feel that your intellect will greatly appreciate the insight offered from that silent, third-party view. Yancy is a master at it, though he himself is a Christian).
I also enjoyed the writings of Tolkien, but regardless of his writings, I have never been tempted to think that they are any more than children's stories. Similarly I could never take seriously the thoughts of a person who honestly believes in "a man who lives in the sky", all seeing, all powerful, yet who for reasons known only to himself allows murder and all manner of cruelty among those he allegedly created.
If it were so I would despise him anyway, putting him into the category of those who organise and oversee dog fights and child molesters etc., because that would have to be the level of his morality. If this is your god, well,... you are welcome to him, just don't expect people with a brain or any sense of morality to believe you. I would seriously suggest that he only exists on the imaginations of those who do not have the backbone to stand up for what is right, they can use their god to excuse them from moral behaviour
So please, let's leave the creatures of some persons imagination out what is supposed to be an otherwise logical debate.