Topic: U.S. debates joining S. Korean military exercises

AZ_Infantry · June 22nd, 2010

The US doesn't have near enough armed forces to sustain a ground offensive against NK. Even if we did, the rest of the world would call us names.

That's where Il thinks he has us: no one in their right mind would ever support US nuclear action in NK, right?

So, I see it 3 ways:

No one will do the ground war

The US will never have support

The rest of the world hates us for inaction, or for acting...

That's the problem with people these days: war is just too icky. It doesn't meet the popularity standards. It has to have rules. And it has to be permissible.

War is a job for tough men making tough decisions.

America needs to stop giving a crap what the man purse wearing sissies in Europe say through their mommy, the UN. Or what anyone else says.

"Well, here's how we're going to do it. If that doesn't meet your standards, get your asses in there and do it yourself. What's that? Oh, you won't? Then a big F you and we're going with the original plan."

There are four reasons why nuclear tipped JDams are the solution:

1. The shock value of underestimating our resolve.

2. Removing the concern of reconstruction.

3. No chance of the target surviving.

4. No American or UN casulaties.

Conventional weapons have zero shock value. They can immediately rebuild. They don't always completely destroy the target, leaving it operational. And conventional weapons can and sometimes do require multiple flights over the airspace to deliver them until the target is completely out of the fight. That endangers friendly lives.

I don't believe Il will watch his entire Air Force go up in mushroom clouds and take his few, remaining air assets to commit to SK. Most of his military is going to do exactly what the regular Iraq forces did: play French and quit. Only his most ardent, loyal, brainwashed (underfed, under-trained, poorly equipped) troops will remain, and they won't be a threat to anyone besides innocent NK kittens everywhere.

Nukes bring an instant disgust. I understand that. But you all that do not support their use are not thinking about it all the way through. Forget that they are icky. They are the most effective, most surgical weapon we have in our arsenal. We can put ANY size warhead on any variety of missiles, cruise missiles, which can be launched from hundreds of miles out.

Stop envisioning huge mushroom clouds AKA 1942~esque. No SURGICAL nuclear strike in NK will affect anyone but NK. And very few civilians will suffer any ill effects compared to how many would die if the US invaded NK with ground forces already so sick and tired of war that they want to shoot everything just so they can go home.

June 22nd, 2010
AZ_Infantry	The US doesn't have near enough armed forces to sustain a ground offensive against NK. Even if we did, the rest of the world would call us names. That's where Il thinks he has us: no one in their right mind would ever support US nuclear action in NK, right? So, I see it 3 ways: No one will do the ground war The US will never have support The rest of the world hates us for inaction, or for acting... That's the problem with people these days: war is just too icky. It doesn't meet the popularity standards. It has to have rules. And it has to be permissible. War is a job for tough men making tough decisions. America needs to stop giving a crap what the man purse wearing sissies in Europe say through their mommy, the UN. Or what anyone else says. "Well, here's how we're going to do it. If that doesn't meet your standards, get your asses in there and do it yourself. What's that? Oh, you won't? Then a big F you and we're going with the original plan." There are four reasons why nuclear tipped JDams are the solution: 1. The shock value of underestimating our resolve. 2. Removing the concern of reconstruction. 3. No chance of the target surviving. 4. No American or UN casulaties. Conventional weapons have zero shock value. They can immediately rebuild. They don't always completely destroy the target, leaving it operational. And conventional weapons can and sometimes do require multiple flights over the airspace to deliver them until the target is completely out of the fight. That endangers friendly lives. I don't believe Il will watch his entire Air Force go up in mushroom clouds and take his few, remaining air assets to commit to SK. Most of his military is going to do exactly what the regular Iraq forces did: play French and quit. Only his most ardent, loyal, brainwashed (underfed, under-trained, poorly equipped) troops will remain, and they won't be a threat to anyone besides innocent NK kittens everywhere. Nukes bring an instant disgust. I understand that. But you all that do not support their use are not thinking about it all the way through. Forget that they are icky. They are the most effective, most surgical weapon we have in our arsenal. We can put ANY size warhead on any variety of missiles, cruise missiles, which can be launched from hundreds of miles out. Stop envisioning huge mushroom clouds AKA 1942~esque. No SURGICAL nuclear strike in NK will affect anyone but NK. And very few civilians will suffer any ill effects compared to how many would die if the US invaded NK with ground forces already so sick and tired of war that they want to shoot everything just so they can go home.