Topic: Why don't the palestinians have a state yet?

Del Boy · August 25th, 2009

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Originally Posted by MontyB

Now I am not going keep repeating the same points over and over so unless you can prove that Hebrews were the majority in the region and that 3000 years of recorded history is all wrong I would suggest that we call it a draw and wait for a fresh perspective.

You have already told us there was never a country called Palestine.

You tell us that no-one can deny the Hebrew presence from as far back as 4000BCE.

And of course I accept that New Zealand was settled by conquest by Europeans with no claim whatsoever not very long ago.

Of course the Jewish Kingdoms were built on conquest, my posted lists also establish that.

I do not disagree anywhere with Israel's 3000 years of recorded history, why would I, that is my case, and I have chronologically listed it here on this thread, from 4300BCE to AD 1917.

The dates and events I have presented are the history, not matters of opinion. Of course there have been great periods of Hebrew majority, and times when Jerusalem was a magnificent jewel in the Kingdom of a Jewish nation, when there is no question of their being a minority. Everything is accounted for in my posts; I need say no more.

I have presented masses of detail of history on this thread and it is there to be referred to, or disputed where anyone finds it possible to.

I also am not going to keep repeating myself while all that detail still stands on the thread; the maintained presence of the Jews in the region from many thousands of years ago; the creation of the homeland of a nation, the establishing of a powerful Kingdom which lasted from 1273 BCE to AD 70; the attempts to hold their land, their continuing returns to reclaim; their suffering under repeated conquests; the nature of their struggles and what it took to tear them from their land. It is all here, from history, on this thread. All the mighty empires and powers that crushed them have faded, into distant memory, but the Jews remain, having denied annihilation so many times.

No-one can correctly deny that historically this was their homeland, without dismissing in detail what I have put down. I have nothing more to prove, I rely on facts, facts, and more facts.

I accept your suggestion of a draw between you and I, therefore, as I am tired with doing most of the batting and bowling, unlike yourself - the umpire. I will content myself that this is England and rain stopped play.