Read main thread: Are Americans any different?
April 23rd, 2009  
Rob Henderson
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Originally Posted by BritinAfrica
Whats funny about it?

Whats your idea of a big rifle? 375 H&H, 416 Rigby, 4 Bore? Please define what you are talking about when you mention "Big Rifles." How do you know that murders or rapes are not prevented by rifles, how much research have you carried out that supports your claim?
I know murders and rapes aren't prevented by rifles because murders and rapists first nab their victims and take them somewhere to commit the crime. For those that DO occur in the home of the victim, they could be prevented by a rifle, but by and large, criminal attacks occur outside the home. I ask you, how much research have you actually done on it?
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Originally Posted by BritinAfrica
I live on a farm, a rifle is far better for self defence in the event of an invasion on my property. A bolt action Lee Enfield with its 10 round magazine is good, but a semi auto is better. If the criminals are close enough for me to engage with a handgun, they are too damn close. Here in South Africa, criminals dont invade farm property in one or two's, on most invasions there are in excess of 10 persons.
I was referring more along the lines of kidnapping (which leads to rape and murder) or robbery. Not property invasion... And it's like you said, a bolt action with a 10 round magazine is fine. And what goes on in South Africa ISN'T what goes on in the rest of the world... Here in the United States, the majority of crimes are property invasion by one or two people... We don't have gangs of 10 invading the farm. Laws are different for different countries with different problems.
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Originally Posted by BritinAfrica
I've been around firearms for over 45 years and I have never seen or heard of a cricket gun. Define what you mean by "pack enough punch." I have known incidents where a 45 ACP or even a 12 bore shotgun hasnt put a criminal down.
It was a nick name... I just meant a smaller sized pistol. Ever seen Men In Black? I guess not.......

You say you've known instances where a 12 bore shotgun didn't put a criminal down... Did that criminal happen to be in full riot gear? Short of a bullet proof vest and a helmet, I don't see how that's possible. Unless of course the criminal was 100+ yards away when the shot was fired. Shotguns aren't effective that far away, don'tcha know.
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Originally Posted by BritinAfrica
How much knowledge do you have regarding internal, external and wound ballistics? From your comments, not a lot.
Obviously not as much as your all-knowingness, oh great lord and master of all things weapon.
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