AHOY, did you miss read my thread I said enemy snipers, there have been no NATO losses to 50 cal. or any other sniper weapons that i know of. And I did here one time about a 6 member USMC sniper team being taken off a roof with out a shot being fired. I seen a video the other day showing 3 US marines on a roof where some enemy personal had gotten in under them (down stirs) they the Marines looked like three rats on a log stuck out in the middle of a lake. Its not well trained ghost sniper teams IMO they can't even get by the kids scouting around. G-day!