H&K UMP



THE UMP

The renowned hard-hitting performance of the classic .45 ACP cartridge, the more recently developed .40 S&W cartridge, and the compact, lightweight version in 9mm is now available in a truly modern submachine gun from HK -- the UMP. Available as a select-fire submachine gun or semi-automatic only carbine, the HK Universal Machine Pistol was designed especially for American law enforcement and military organizations.

The UMP is a cost-effective, state-of-the-art weapon that offers the user the advantages of light weight, low initial purchase and maintenance costs, uncompromising reliability, modularity for accessory attachment, and precision accuracy with low felt recoil.



Features:

• Polymer construction for reduced weight and corrosion resistance
• Molded-in hard points for accessory rail attachment
• Can be fired with buttstock folded
• Closed bolt operation ensures excellent accuracy at extended ranges
• Operating controls like those of other HK weapons simplify training
• Cost-effective and low maintenance
• Available as a select-fire submachine gun or semi-automatic only carbine, with a variety of trigger group options including single fire, 0-1-2, NT(Navy) and 0-1-2-full

Specifications:

Caliber - .40 S&W
Magazine Capacity - 30 Rounds
Length -17.72/27.17
Width - 2.5
Height - 11.93
Sight Radius - 12.8
Barrel Length - 7.87
Weight - 4.63LBS
Cyclic Rate - 600 RPM

Never fired a .45 smg but is it really necessary?
When I've fired 9mm smg's the fire power has always felt more than adequate.
Yes the stopping power of .45 may make adifference when firing a pistol in a combat situation(i.e. only enough time to fire one round) but the ability of a smg to fire multiple shots on one pull of the trigger makes this something that could be traded for that extra ammunition capabilityand controlability.
If a burst of 9mm isnt going to take him out then the weapon selected(SMG) is the incorrect firearm for the job.

I see..

so what is better, single shot .45 , semi, or auto?

Originally Posted by MightyMacbeth

I see..

so what is better, single shot .45 , semi, or auto?

Depends, if you're defending from cover in close quarters, single (which is semi) is what you want. If you're spraying windows and doorways from across a street, full auto (Thompson) has worked very well.

oh, so there is -one shot, -3 shots, -and auto..

what are they called?

Semi, 3 shot burst, full.

The MP5 does that and it's a Sub Machine Gun.

I see, thanks for the info there

I'll keep it simple: just give me the mp5 that suffice for me. The French used to have a machinegun which fed the bullets from a clip under a obtuse angle. Most gunners threw it away quickly because it used to jam a lot. Might the angle of the clip not cause this to the UMP as well?

THe angle of the H&Km UMP magazine is not a problem. The weapon system that I think you were talking about was the French MAT 49. The magazine well could actaully fold up towards the barrel during carry or storage. Which seemed like a good idea at the time. Expect what happened is that spring in the magazine well would loose it's stregnth and not be in the proper place to feed ammunition.

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But if I had to chose I would go with the FNP90, even though its not on the list, considering its a 5.7mm.
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i agree- i would go with the FNP90