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Originally Posted by MontyB Maybe I should rephrase the question, how much worse could things have been if not for successful Allied intelligence?
For example how would the battle of the Atlantic gone had the allies not been able to direct convoys around uboat traps and direct warhips and aircraft onto uboats directly, what about Operation Lüttich could it have been successful had ultra not known about it from the beginning? |
Operation Lüttich was thought to be suicidal irrespective of intelligence. Intelligence was probably more critical to the battle of the Atlantic in the early stages, prior to short wave radar and carrier escorts which would have turned the balance anyway. It is thought that intelligence shortened rather than determined the outcome of the war. Perhaps it was more beneficial to the allies since Stalin was always sceptical of second hand intelligence anyway. Not having the required intelligence may have resulted in a communist mainland Europe after the war.
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