Topic: Montana and Oklahoma threaten to Secede

mmarsh · June 17th, 2008

AikiRooster

Thats why we are a democracy not dictatorship, even scumbags have rights. Your wrong, only Ginsburg is liberal Democrat, Breyer is moderate Democrat, Souter is a moderate Republican. Alito, Thomas, Roberts, Kennedy, Scalia are all very conservative Republicans.

5.56

We have had this arguement before, back in 1789 it was called the Articles of Confederation. The Articles allowed for strong state governments and a weak federal governement. It was a miserable failure which came crashing down 7 years later. Why? because the states constantly fought each other. Va and Mass almost went to war against each other over a land dispute. Thats why its a bad idea. What Oklahoma and Montana wants is a return to that system where the states dictate to the Federal Government, that just isn't going to happen. In the US Constitution, Federal law overrides state law, unless that Federal law is deemed unconstitutional by the USSC. The US government isn't a salad bar, you cannot pick and choose the parts you like and ignore the rest. Otherwise ALL the states will start to ignore parts of Federal law they don't like. What would happen if NY decided it wasn't constitutionally obligated to fund (via taxes) the Iraq war anymore?

If the USSC rules against those states they have no choice but to accept. If they want to secede, fine. But its an empty threat, both have very small populations, and are mostly either agrarian or wild. Either way the impact to the USA is minimal. The loss of federal funding would be more devastating to those states than the loss of the 2nd amendment.

And their getting their balls all tied up for nothing. The current gun bans only apply to CERTAIN large cities. Nobody has the intention of banning guns in the countryside. Its both unnecessary and political suicide. Its not even been discussed except in a few fringe circles. The idea of 'gun-grabbers' is mostly a figment of the NRA imagination.

June 17th, 2008
mmarsh Tribunus Laticlavius Gear	AikiRooster Thats why we are a democracy not dictatorship, even scumbags have rights. Your wrong, only Ginsburg is liberal Democrat, Breyer is moderate Democrat, Souter is a moderate Republican. Alito, Thomas, Roberts, Kennedy, Scalia are all very conservative Republicans. 5.56 We have had this arguement before, back in 1789 it was called the Articles of Confederation. The Articles allowed for strong state governments and a weak federal governement. It was a miserable failure which came crashing down 7 years later. Why? because the states constantly fought each other. Va and Mass almost went to war against each other over a land dispute. Thats why its a bad idea. What Oklahoma and Montana wants is a return to that system where the states dictate to the Federal Government, that just isn't going to happen. In the US Constitution, Federal law overrides state law, unless that Federal law is deemed unconstitutional by the USSC. The US government isn't a salad bar, you cannot pick and choose the parts you like and ignore the rest. Otherwise ALL the states will start to ignore parts of Federal law they don't like. What would happen if NY decided it wasn't constitutionally obligated to fund (via taxes) the Iraq war anymore? If the USSC rules against those states they have no choice but to accept. If they want to secede, fine. But its an empty threat, both have very small populations, and are mostly either agrarian or wild. Either way the impact to the USA is minimal. The loss of federal funding would be more devastating to those states than the loss of the 2nd amendment. And their getting their balls all tied up for nothing. The current gun bans only apply to CERTAIN large cities. Nobody has the intention of banning guns in the countryside. Its both unnecessary and political suicide. Its not even been discussed except in a few fringe circles. The idea of 'gun-grabbers' is mostly a figment of the NRA imagination. __________________ "My center is giving way, my right is in retreat; situation excellent. I shall attack." -Foch I get this question a lot. I am from NYC. I fly a French flag because I work for the Paris Office of a International company. Last edited by mmarsh; June 17th, 2008 at 16:36.