Topic: Gun and knife murders up in UK... so much for gun bans preventing murders lol

Del Boy · May 18th, 2008

As always, the insult stage is introduced by yourself. Perhaps you would remind me of when I have ever derided the media. I believe that you yourself hold the 'cyclic' title, so perhaps you would like to like to give that old cliche a rest. Allow me to point out that this is a political discussion thread, where folk are supposed to present their views and are not supposed to let others go unchallenged.
This ain't the "There were ten in the bed and the little one said 'roll over, roll over'. So they all rolled over and one fell out" club, yet - as I understand it.

I assume that by 'thread killing' you mean when I happen to present a view which does not agree with your own, or one that you are at a loss to oppose. I see thread killing as trying to shut people up so that they go unheard. For my part, I always try to encourage others to join in robust debate . The more the merrier, that's what we are here for.

And we have to be able to agree to disagree, and we shouldn't act the diva, continually crying 'foul'.

I have no wish to claim the 'last word'; don't blame me if that is how the cookie crumbles, my opinion is always up there to be shot down; so, please, be my guest.

I assume that by 'tit for tat nonsense' you refer to opposing views, whereas I am referring to the report in question and your attempt to dismiss articles by David Leppard as unworthy. The Wiki quotation certainly says otherwise, and you were very selective in this respect.

The article and the writer did not deserve to be disrespected in such cavalier fashion ; this is a very serious matter under discussion.

(The memoirs of the russian KGB defector Oleg Gordievsky , published by The Times, was at the centre of the Michael Foot spy affair:-

http://www.timeout.com/london/features/333/3.html

In 1995, an article in The Sunday Times, under the headline "KGB: Michael Foot was our agent", alleged that the Soviet intelligence services regarded Foot as an 'agent of influence', named as 'Agent Boot'.
. The article was based on the paper's serialisation of KGB defector Oleg Gordievsky's memoirs.

.http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...51C0A963958260

As Wiki made clear, this was the only 'blemish' on David Leppard's distinguished career.)

And now, back on topic, here is another example of what our police are up against , politically,on our streets:-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=567032&in_page_id=1770

May 18th, 2008
Del Boy Tribunus Laticlavius	As always, the insult stage is introduced by yourself. Perhaps you would remind me of when I have ever derided the media. I believe that you yourself hold the 'cyclic' title, so perhaps you would like to like to give that old cliche a rest. Allow me to point out that this is a political discussion thread, where folk are supposed to present their views and are not supposed to let others go unchallenged. This ain't the "There were ten in the bed and the little one said 'roll over, roll over'. So they all rolled over and one fell out" club, yet - as I understand it. I assume that by 'thread killing' you mean when I happen to present a view which does not agree with your own, or one that you are at a loss to oppose. I see thread killing as trying to shut people up so that they go unheard. For my part, I always try to encourage others to join in robust debate . The more the merrier, that's what we are here for. And we have to be able to agree to disagree, and we shouldn't act the diva, continually crying 'foul'. I have no wish to claim the 'last word'; don't blame me if that is how the cookie crumbles, my opinion is always up there to be shot down; so, please, be my guest. I assume that by 'tit for tat nonsense' you refer to opposing views, whereas I am referring to the report in question and your attempt to dismiss articles by David Leppard as unworthy. The Wiki quotation certainly says otherwise, and you were very selective in this respect. The article and the writer did not deserve to be disrespected in such cavalier fashion ; this is a very serious matter under discussion. (The memoirs of the russian KGB defector Oleg Gordievsky , published by The Times, was at the centre of the Michael Foot spy affair:- http://www.timeout.com/london/features/333/3.html In 1995, an article in The Sunday Times, under the headline "KGB: Michael Foot was our agent", alleged that the Soviet intelligence services regarded Foot as an 'agent of influence', named as 'Agent Boot'. . The article was based on the paper's serialisation of KGB defector Oleg Gordievsky's memoirs. .http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...51C0A963958260 As Wiki made clear, this was the only 'blemish' on David Leppard's distinguished career.) And now, back on topic, here is another example of what our police are up against , politically,on our streets:- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=567032&in_page_id=1770 __________________ . "Who is wise - he that learns from everyone; who is powerful - he that governs his passions; who is rich- he that is content. Who is that ? -Nobody." Last edited by Del Boy; May 19th, 2008 at 14:10.