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April 27th, 2008  
perseus
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Originally Posted by major liability
I am very lucky I live in America and not say Britain.
Depends to what group you belong to in America, although being white Caucasian doesn't provide immunity from intrusion.

helicopter surveillance over homes and property, road blocks, curfews on young people in cities, CIA/FBI refuse to release documents to defend clients in state courts, FBI peeking at domestic correspondence, being stopped on highways for being black or Hispanic subject to strip searches, immigration holding children in prison conditions for months without informing them of rights, private cooperations recording employees phone calls, voice mail, computer files, email, logs of websites, videotaping them at work, observing them in bathrooms and locker rooms, tracking using bugging. FBI asking librarians to report on books taken out by patrons with foreign sounding names, rejection for housing and employment because of race, appalling conditions in prisons (no need to go to Abu Ghraib, all this happens in US prisons). I've given up on the list this is only about a third. Of course some of this is the case in the UK as well.

Seems to me your freedom is an illusion, but providing the majority feel that way and vote accordingly, the rest can go to hell.
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Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country. Herman Goering
 
 
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