March 18th, 2008  
Del Boy
Tribunus Laticlavius
 
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Originally Posted by senojekips
Ahh, I knew it would happen, you haven't learned a thing. You ran off, (remember FINITO BENITO), re considered your poor standing and came back agreeing with me.
Don't be so ridiculous. I Finitoed at a stage where I was most comfortable and was merely putting my part in the argument to bed, by not continuing to pick the bones out each others' posts.

However when Le's post appeared and you came again, I came back still in contention with you and pointing out where. No change in my case there.

And AFTER THAT I made a very full and detailed rebuttal of your next post and explained why , post 36. Why should you assume I could learn anything from you? Please.



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Originally Posted by senijekips
You'll notice it was you who stated You see, you have left a written record of your agreement with my statement. So it is not "We" as I never agreed with a single thing you've said. I didn't then and don't now, because I believe that you have only "changed your coat to suit the weather".


Nonsense again. I never SOUGHT your agreement, I spelt out where it existed, no coat-changing whatsoever. See post 36. In pointing out that we were in agreement, I was NOT changing my opinion, but that our views on those particular points happenned to be same. On those you had been wrong in assuming that we were opposed. Read my posts. Our views just happened to be the same. No-one was changing position there, it was not necessary. As I pointed out, you are once again trying to put your words into my mouth. Where you see 'I agree with you' understand that I am politely trying to demonstrate that the opinion you happen to hold there is the opinion that happens to be mine. I was simply correcting your take on those points, not changing position.
Obviously I should have taken a bigger stick to make the point, I over-estimated your comprehension. I won't do it again.
Definitely no coat-changing there, and the weather doesn't bother me.



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Originally Posted by senojekips

Never the less it surprises me that you would give in so easily when only confronted with something so simple as facts. That's not like you at all.

Well, if ever I 'give in' I will understand this comment - it hasn't happened yet! Post 36 is not capitulation, it is a repudiation of your claims, framed politely.
I had already gone through a full list of the details of your post, my post 36. pointing out the incorrectness of each, either because our views were not in opposition, as you were assuming or because I had something else to say in repudiation.

In all this list, I did not find it necessary to back-pedal at all. On some points we happenned to agree whether you like it or not.
However, at the end, feeling you had put such an effort into putting your case, I simply offered an honest olive branch, in an effort to take any personal animosity out of the situation.

No back-peddling involved there. But I see what a mistake it was to offer a genuine hand. I will not make that mistake again.


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Originally Posted by senojekips

In case you've forgotten already,... I'm the one stating that the coalition is making a mess of things.
I forget nothing - and I am the one in support of the USA anti-terrorist efforts, I am more prepared to accept the line as laid by the USA rather than the complaints of their 'victims', at this stage of affairs.

On the other hand, you would have the Americans fight with their hands tied behind their backs.


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Originally Posted by senojekips

No,... there is no way that I agree with anything you say on this matter.

Not true - post 36 shows precisely where we are in agreement and where we are not, and is there for all to see. I have made it clear there, not a question of your choice, just a statement of where my opinion matches your own, and has done so from the start, not in response to changed attitudes.


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Originally Posted by senojekips

I can just see the judges at the war Crimes tribunal, when some poor defendant says, "No, honestly, it''s OK , it has Delboys "nod", along with torture other than, "the use of physical torture in the old previously recognised forms". Hoho.

More nonsensical tosh from the great man! I am sorry to have to be the one to tell, old chap, that that just ain't going to happen. But of course, yours is the only opinion which counts as your signature indicates.
BTW - have you never heard of the rack, drawing and quartering, the Inquisition practices, the Iron Maiden, the middle-eastern practice of hot-ironing people etc.etc.etc. - perhaps you and your friends cannot see the gap between those and the Coalition behaviour.

And furthermore - The Gitmo regime as being based on revenge. INFORMATION is the quest, and keeping dangerous murderers off the streets is another, until they have been measured. And yes - I do already know that you consider such information useless, but nevertheless.


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Originally Posted by senojekips
You're getting a really nice routine going here DB, "open mouth,.... one foot out, other foot in". Don't bother trying, there's no second prizes
You are singing from the wrong hymn-sheet there, the lyrics are ... "'written word, on record, both feet in, take no b/s from inflated egos,
do not change course or give way to stone-throwing or personal abuse, and never seek prizes, stay above such low ideals." Good song.
You will find it on post 36, in detail, confirmed in my later friendly posts, where I honestly sought to heal any personal hurt I had inflicted inadvertantly.

As I have said so many times, with some folk, any compassion is interpreted as weakness.

Well ,thing again, Sir, I offered you my hand only through PITY, believe it or not.

I will never trust you with my hand again, you obviously have confused me with some other guy who doesn't give a s*** for honour.


Now , all that is yesterday's news - back on topic.

I stand on my position and have done so throughout. And now I'm off, unless dragged back in. gone fishin.
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Last edited by Del Boy; March 18th, 2008 at 15:56.
 
 
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