Post; Middle East

rock45 · January 10th, 2008

I always thought if the Germans would have push further in the Middle East and blocking England's main sources of oil and basically taking away Med early on may have had some longer lasting effects as well.

Not taking Spain and closing the Med completely was a huge mistake, between the above and leaving there southern flank open was the early down falls.

I think Russia would have attacked them once a little better prepared.

Lack of longer range fighters and attack aircraft was huge, it was very closed minded to think the BF109 would last as long as it did. In late 1940 or 1941 they knew of it's short comings. The 190 did better in ways but the Germans lack something better. Besides subs they needed aircraft that could reach western England from France and maybe from northern Spain if they were smart enough to grab it. As great as there early arms industry was it was there air power or lack of that let them down.

I would used my air power to focus on England's Navy & ship yards which was there life line to the world even more so then the RAF. The English channel would have been a ships grave yard period. British ships block my ports would have just been targets. Can you imagine if hundreds of there early air attacks between 1940 and 1941 went against 70% of all English shipping. They wouldn't have been able to recover it takes to long to build ships and imports are needed to do it. Taking out the RAF with no fuel for it's fighter would have come later. And United States started late we still needed a year or two before out industry jumped into super high gear. I would have went for the neck and choke them to soften them up.

There are another fifty or sixty important things as well but by late 1943 and 1944 our industry would have over came most this anyway but at a higher cost. We would got out foot hold a little deeper in Africa and work our up or in the far north or even through Russia and in the end they would have lost. You can't and win with 20 to 1 odds in aircraft, ships, and personnel against you.

I think I have a good point with Spain that single thing could changed a lot. All of England's oil and goods would have to come all the way around the horn and up. We might not have had a nice island to land on after a while.

January 10th, 2008
rock45 Primus Pilus	Post; Middle East I always thought if the Germans would have push further in the Middle East and blocking England's main sources of oil and basically taking away Med early on may have had some longer lasting effects as well. Not taking Spain and closing the Med completely was a huge mistake, between the above and leaving there southern flank open was the early down falls. I think Russia would have attacked them once a little better prepared. Lack of longer range fighters and attack aircraft was huge, it was very closed minded to think the BF109 would last as long as it did. In late 1940 or 1941 they knew of it's short comings. The 190 did better in ways but the Germans lack something better. Besides subs they needed aircraft that could reach western England from France and maybe from northern Spain if they were smart enough to grab it. As great as there early arms industry was it was there air power or lack of that let them down. I would used my air power to focus on England's Navy & ship yards which was there life line to the world even more so then the RAF. The English channel would have been a ships grave yard period. British ships block my ports would have just been targets. Can you imagine if hundreds of there early air attacks between 1940 and 1941 went against 70% of all English shipping. They wouldn't have been able to recover it takes to long to build ships and imports are needed to do it. Taking out the RAF with no fuel for it's fighter would have come later. And United States started late we still needed a year or two before out industry jumped into super high gear. I would have went for the neck and choke them to soften them up. There are another fifty or sixty important things as well but by late 1943 and 1944 our industry would have over came most this anyway but at a higher cost. We would got out foot hold a little deeper in Africa and work our up or in the far north or even through Russia and in the end they would have lost. You can't and win with 20 to 1 odds in aircraft, ships, and personnel against you. I think I have a good point with Spain that single thing could changed a lot. All of England's oil and goods would have to come all the way around the horn and up. We might not have had a nice island to land on after a while.