Topic: Why did Germany lose WW2?

perseus · January 8th, 2008

[quote=MontyB;390623] I think the only viable help the Japanese could have given was the continued threat to attack the Russians thus tying down Russian resources in the east, outside that they did attack British possessions in the east but much too late and there is almost no way they could have launched a direct assault on India without securing the other British possessions between Japan and India [quote]

The tripartite act was signed in September 1940 although in principle it could have been earlier. I am assuming what Germany or the axis (since I am obviously considering the wider picture) 'did wrong' was from early on in the war. Britain had shipping lanes to the Far East, these would seem very venerable to a Japanese offensive in 1940. If Japan would have been careful to leave US possessions alone it would have been difficult for the US to come in on Britain's side. This would have left Malaya then Ceylon to be occupied in 1940 (no point in occupying anything other than defendable ports) then the whole Suez route comes under threat and the whole Middle East falls in 1941.

[quote=MontyB;390623] As far as technology goes I am not sure there would have been any benefit in an armour exchange as a 50 ton tiger probably wouldn't have been effective in the jungles of SE Asia [quote]

I was assuming they were getting beaten up in Manchuria due to the lack of Armour and had aspirations for Asiatic Russia? The main problem would be transport so I suppose we are talking about technology transfer rather than tanks. The Tiger was probably far too late in the war and not much good anyway.

[quote=MontyB;390623] and the Germans really didn't need to be spending resources on a surface fleet that late in the war [quote]

Most of the 'work' would have had to have been finished before the US economy got on a war footing, say Mid 1943.

January 8th, 2008
perseus Centurion	[quote=MontyB;390623] I think the only viable help the Japanese could have given was the continued threat to attack the Russians thus tying down Russian resources in the east, outside that they did attack British possessions in the east but much too late and there is almost no way they could have launched a direct assault on India without securing the other British possessions between Japan and India [quote] The tripartite act was signed in September 1940 although in principle it could have been earlier. I am assuming what Germany or the axis (since I am obviously considering the wider picture) 'did wrong' was from early on in the war. Britain had shipping lanes to the Far East, these would seem very venerable to a Japanese offensive in 1940. If Japan would have been careful to leave US possessions alone it would have been difficult for the US to come in on Britain's side. This would have left Malaya then Ceylon to be occupied in 1940 (no point in occupying anything other than defendable ports) then the whole Suez route comes under threat and the whole Middle East falls in 1941. [quote=MontyB;390623] As far as technology goes I am not sure there would have been any benefit in an armour exchange as a 50 ton tiger probably wouldn't have been effective in the jungles of SE Asia [quote] I was assuming they were getting beaten up in Manchuria due to the lack of Armour and had aspirations for Asiatic Russia? The main problem would be transport so I suppose we are talking about technology transfer rather than tanks. The Tiger was probably far too late in the war and not much good anyway. [quote=MontyB;390623] and the Germans really didn't need to be spending resources on a surface fleet that late in the war [quote] Most of the 'work' would have had to have been finished before the US economy got on a war footing, say Mid 1943. __________________ Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country. Herman Goering