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October 20th, 2007  
Ollie Garchy
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Originally Posted by Kunikov
This is pointless, you have not read the works I listed above nor do you care to. I'm not going to be correcting you at every turn. So, for the last time; the information being received was contradictory, Stalin did not know who to believe, the information he looked at many times said Germany wouldn't attack, at least not that summer. Secondly, the Red Army was growing, forces were on the move from the interior, airfields were ordered to be camouflaged, etc. There was only so much one could do without knowing exactly when Hitler would attack and believing it. You see 'no excuse' because you haven't read all the reports that were coming in.
You can cite all the sources that you want. How about a million more? None of this changes the fact that the Sovs got creamed. And, they got creamed throughout the war -- the war kept the Russians in the stone age. That was all they could ever have achieved. It was a "miracle" from a Slavic perspective, but they only gave up millions to allow the Americans to win.

Let me introduce a conjectural point...after all this crap, that is the least that one could allow me. What about a war between Germany and the Soviets without the air war and the two fronts in Italy and France? Come on, who are you trying to convince? I live in the real world. How about you guys? Germany would have won.

And, anyway, look at Russia today, what have they won? 60 years after WWII, I have to say that Germany won, anyway.
 
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