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Originally Posted by major liability I'm not some crazy person who denies the holocaust. But the holocaust is not a good reason to give them a patch of land that someone else was living on. They weren't living in Israel at the beginning of World War II, were they? |
Yes. Israel was raised not because of the Holocaust, it was already in existence, and then the Holocaust exacerbated it. The British held the mandate.
Jews had lived there for the hundreds of years since the Romans, in greater and smaller numbers, sharing with Arabs as now. When the Turks owned it all ,the Zionist movement ( an agricultural movement dedicated to the creation of a blooming desert-land) were offfered the whole of the region which had been greater Israel for nothing in return for their moral support regarding the Turkish Holocaust on Armenia, but The Zionists refused to accept it on principle. The Jews were often driven out, by firest continual Roman holocausts, then Islamic, and Crusader,then Turkish, but constantly returned to claim their homeland, and for example the population of Jerusalem in the 19th century reads :- Christians approx 4000. Jews approx 3500. Mohameddans approx 3500. This was avery sparcely populated area.
You will find that great Islamic religious edifices are built deliberately on top of holy Jewish sites of great importance to them.
However, I do not want to get into this, it is much to important an issue. My experience is that it will get us nowhere, because the Islamic propaganda has been swallowed whole and the truth long forgotten.