September 28th, 2007  
MontyB
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Originally Posted by 5.56X45mm
Senojekips was a legal law abiding citizen. He jumped through all the hoops and yet he was still punished because of some nutter. Registration leads to confiscation. Why should I give the government any information about my firearms? Oh, because the registration is for the safety of the children???? Nope.... History has proven over and over again that REGISTRATION LEADS TO CONFISCATION.
I have no doubt he is a law abiding citizen but as I do not know the Australian laws on these things I can not comment on whether he chose to get rid of his weapons because he didn't jump through government hoops to keep them or whether there just no way he could keep them I am sure he is more than capable of supplying us with those details.

I can however comment on New Zealand law and apart from building an appropriate storage system and agreeing to get permits to buy new weapons I have not noticed any attempt to confiscate weapons in fact I have had a great deal of support from out local authorities which includes fast tracking permits for weapons that were going to be destroyed otherwise.

I do know that since these laws were enacted (as a result of the 1990 Aromoana shootings) we have had no further incidents and that is all that really matters as for the rest well I can happily report that while I do not necessarily support or trust my government all the time I certainly do not fear them as it appears you guys do but perhaps that is one of the benefits of living in a small country.

So while I don't really care what gun control methods the US chooses (basically if you like the annual school shoot outs thats your business I know in New Zealand they are not so popular) I will fight tooth and nail to ensure that we don't try and emulate you because I like knowing that the best armed people in my community (next to me) is the police force and not the gang next door.


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I am a human being with freedoms and rights. One such right is the right to keep and bears arms. That right is a higher right. It is not a right given to me by the government. It is a right that is given to me for simply drawing breath and being human. No government or person will strip me of those rights.
I know I don't read the bible as much as I should have but in the limited knowledge I have I don't recall the section on the right to bear arms and could of sworn the only place I remember seeing it was in the laws of various countries around the world which would indicate that it is a right given by governments unless of course you are claiming that these laws were written by [insert deity of choice here]?
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Last edited by MontyB; September 28th, 2007 at 22:39.
 
 
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