August 24th, 2004  
gladius
 
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Originally Posted by Keist IV

This may be but I thought that this terrible world leader will be of a blonde hair and blue eyes nationality. I do not remember exactly where I heard or read this but I was under that understanding. If this is the case, I do not know if too many Muslims with blonde hair and blue eyes.
I've studied several different prophecies Christian, Muslim and others. There is no metion of any blond blue eyes leader. The Bible has no mention anywhere of what he will look like, eluding to blonde and blue eyes. So I don't where you heard this stuff.

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Originally Posted by GuyontheRight
gadius,
I disagree with why this would take place In Europe. The secularization of Europe proves that It is no longer a "Christian Enemy", and now with Israel being home to many Jews, It no longer symbolizes Judaism. No, I believe Europe, If the prophesy has any truth, would be the goal because It symbolizes progressiveness to the point of sinfulness. Think about It, Humanism and Materialism both emerged from Europe, both of which are opposite to the beliefs of Islam.

Remember, the early Muslims has respect for both Christians and Jews, the hate we see In many of them today is just a phenomenon In their geopolitical situation.
Yes that how we see things, but thats not how they see things. So it really doesn't matter what our concepts of Christinity and the West are. To them the West and Christianity as a whole are pretty much one and the same, basicly it a threat fundamentalist Islam.

The same principal goes for Israel, regardless of how todays Israelis see themselves, to the Muslims they are just still Jews. Like I said before our logic and their logic is not the same.

This is a quote I think from one of the Hadiths a compilation of the prophet Mohamed's sayings

"The last hour won't come before the Muslims would fight the Jews and the Muslims will kill them so Jews would hide behind rocks and trees. Then the rocks and trees would call: oh, Muslim, oh, servant of God! There is a Jew, behind me, come and kill him."

So much for their respect of Jews.


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Originally Posted by Troop Rupert

Clearly, there is a lot of talk from various Imams, and other religious types, trying to get support for what is essentially a terrorist campaign with political ends, and using the Jihad card is bound to get a bit more support from the locals than the political card, but I do not believe for one second that this is all part of a fundamental Islamic plot - this smacks of 1930's Nazi propoganda about the Jewish plot to take over the World.
Sorry I didn't mean for it to be disturbing, but the posibilty of world war is diturbing. I mean I don't think it's going to go away just because we think positive thoughts.

As far as the Nazi's go, you gotta think how many Germans were actually Nazi's, very few percentange wise, the rest of the normal folk jsut got swept up in the tide.

And as far as propaganda goes, they have one that rivals the output of Goebbels himself, you might have heard of it's called Al Jezeera. Every day their media fuels hatred against the Israel and the West. It's sure not helping to make things any better.

I'm not saying this stuff because I wan't to happen, on the contrary I don't. But I'm afraid the writting is on the wall. If we ignore this like France ignored Germany in the 30's then for sure there will be nothing we can do to stop it once it catches steam.

I actually believe most Muslims are decent people. However when the ball gets rolling, just like those Germans who where swept up by the Nazi tide, so will they get swept up.
 
 
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