I'm staying out of this one, simply because i have too much to say. I will make this point regarding Bull Dog's original post. When you are finished with this argument, consider this. The ideology in question is already on your case, and coming for you. You will fight as free men or become slaves. It is here, at your door. Now is the time, don't argue too long, as we in England are doing. Our country is slipping from us, through our weak underbelly government.
Like you guys, I love peace and freedom - it is worth fighting for. Finished on this, folks.
Command the future, conquer the past.