Originally Posted by mmarsh

So are most Americans, check the polls if you don't believe me. I was reading that the GOP is headhunting candidates for the 2016 election, as thats first chance predicted they'll have to recapture the White House. Just look at the pathetic bunch of eyesores they dredged up for 2008. Truly, the bottom of the GOP barrel. All the good GOP candidates are lying low or are switching to independents.

Chief Bones

Iraq is lost.

I am not talking military, I am talking politically. But as long as there is no political solution there will be no military victory either, even the DOD had admitted that one. The small chance we had to keep the sovereign state of Iraq was blown by the NEOCONS uber-incompetance in 2003.

That ship has sailed. Its never coming back.

So with the political solution now gone, all you are going to have groups and subgroups fighting each other (not to mention us, the fact they all hate us is about the one thing they do agree on). You cannot control such mobs its like trying to herd cats.

The regional bloodbath you wish to avoid is unavoidable, there are only to real choices

1. Lots of civilians Deaths
2. Lots of Civilians Deaths AND lots of US Servicemen Deaths.

I'll choose the lesser of two evils.