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November 14th, 2009   #1
tommy_gunn
 
 

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what and who had the best tank in the ww2
 
November 14th, 2009   #2
Panzercracker
 
Germans:
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November 14th, 2009   #3
ranger awesomness
 
 
depends on what you say makes a tank great. the German Tiger and King Tiger had superior firepower and armor but lacked resources to produce these tanks in large enough quanity to change the fate of the war. While the American Sherman or Russian T-34 lacked armor and great fire power but there speed and large numbers over whelmed the Germans.
 
November 15th, 2009   #4
Zastava-Arms
 
I thought it was agreed on world-wide that the T-34 was the best tank in WW2?
 
November 15th, 2009   #5
Bacara
 
 
yea the t-34, and what i find funny is how people seem to forget how revolutionary it was, i overnight made EVERY german tank obsolete, in response, many german generals simply wonted to copy it, they did not know what to do, if it were not for horrible crew training, and idiot generals, (stalin killed 2/3's of his generals in the thirties) they were world beaters.
They finally responded in the 1942-3, with the tiger and panther respectifully, these were great tanks but were overly complicated and expansive. The germans have a habit of over complicating things, ex. german cars. When not in the shop being repaired, they were exstremely effective, but the numbers were also inflated by the superior crews and tactics of the germans. A good tank crew is worth more then a good tank. look at the merkeva
 
November 15th, 2009   #6
Zastava-Arms
 
I read a story that once a Soviet T-34 was sourounded by German tanks which opened fire. They kept firing at the T-34 for about a minute then stopped, and to their astonishment a extremely shell-shocked crew open the hatch and stumbled out.

Score 1 for Soviet design.
 
November 18th, 2009   #7
justin1552
 
 
I was watching a show on the T-34 and the historian that was speaking had said they adopted very odd doctrine, such as going full speed and ramming a Tiger Tank.


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November 18th, 2009   #8
George
 
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Originally Posted by ranger awesomness
depends on what you say makes a tank great. the German Tiger and King Tiger had superior firepower and armor but lacked resources to produce these tanks in large enough quanity to change the fate of the war. While the American Sherman or Russian T-34 lacked armor and great fire power but there speed and large numbers over whelmed the Germans.
Lack of ability to produce in volume doesn't mean it isn't a great tank. The T-34 was a great tank, & produced in volume. The Sherman was a POS & produced in volume. In this case quantity beat out quality, but doesn't make it a great tank, the irony of "Built like a Sherman tank"!
 
November 18th, 2009   #9
Panzercracker
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by justin1552
I was watching a show on the T-34 and the historian that was speaking had said they adopted very odd doctrine, such as going full speed and ramming a Tiger Tank.
Nothing odd about it, in 1943 most T-34s were armed with guns unable to penetrate Tigers frontal armor.

Of course the Western historian is more then likely full of sh*t since Western European history is heavily biased, there was no such doctrine as trying to ram a tank armed with a 88mm main gun more often then not would end up with an entire T-34 squadron being blown to bits.

However during large tank battles when visibility was low due to smoke Russians did ram tiger tanks routinely and the tactic was quite ingenious since it took out both tanks while the Western tankers pranced around afraid of sacrificing themselves and thus losing even more machines.
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Originally Posted by Zastava-Arms
I read a story that once a Soviet T-34 was sourounded by German tanks which opened fire. They kept firing at the T-34 for about a minute then stopped, and to their astonishment a extremely shell-shocked crew open the hatch and stumbled out.

Score 1 for Soviet design.
There's better ones, a KV-1 stopping an entire German armored brigade for 3 hours, it destroyed a full company of IIIs and IVs, ran over an entire battery of arty including at least one 88 and when it ran out of ammo it started ramming/running over vehicles stuck on a road.

It took heavy artillery to bring it down.

While Russian tactics were horrible (if at all existent) in 41 their tank design was lightyears ahead of anyone else.

Last edited by Panzercracker; November 18th, 2009 at 17:04..
 
November 20th, 2009   #10
Zastava-Arms
 
Really? Now thats some interesting stuff right there.

Score 2 for Soviet design. Current standing

German 0 - 2 USSR
 



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