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Originally Posted by Bugfatty In the US there is a saying: Its the bill of rights, not the bill of needs.
There may not be a written guarantee of the right to keep and bear arms in Australia or New Zealand but the principle is the same. If the government can ban things on sheer basis of "need" then they can pretty much ban anything on that basis. |
But surely using this logic the government should have no right to ban anything. As I have said earlier governments do not pass laws with the law abiding in mind they pass them (right or wrong) to combat problems, we don't have laws against stealing, murder, speeding or drugs on the off chance that some one may carry out the act we have them because people have carried out these acts and society wants them controlled or stopped.
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Look at the UK. 20 years ago, they had a prospering gun/shooting/hunting culture. Then came Hungerford. No semi-auto allowed. Then came Dunblane. No handguns allowed period.
And now a law abiding British citizen can't even carry mace or pepperspray on them in the most violent country in the developed world.
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I am not sure what your point is here to be honest but I am absolutely certain that dumping more weapons on the market and relaxing gun laws will not reduce the level of violence in the UK, I have read the arguments that allowing people to arm themselves for protection will deter attackers but I am not convinced I personally think that all you will do is create an civilian arms race with the determined criminals coming out on top.
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What happens if someone drives through a crowded plaza killing a number people? Will they then ban private ownership of cars?
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Interestingly enough motor vehicles are registered and you are required to have a license to use one.
There are also laws on the books about vehicular homicide etc. would you suggest that those laws are too tough after all people spend a fortune on vehicles and the law abiding would never kill anyone with one.
Lets face it vehicles don't kill people, people kill people.