Topic: Vietnam War, lost or not.

DTop · January 4th, 2006

WD let me say this, there was no retreat by the American military. The withdrawal of US troops began in 1971 and it still took until April 30, 1975 for the communists to defeat the South Vietnamese.
FYI zander, when I was there in 1970 there wasn't a Vietcong to be found anyhere. Honestly, I don't know where this nonsense comes from, what in the name of truth have you folks been fed in the name of information?
I'd be among the first to agree that the pols didn't handle this very well and that the vociferous protestors were lead by the nose by commusnist agitators and media propagandists. But don't try to tell me that the US military was defeated or retreated, it just didn't happen.

Here are some facts about the American military in Vietnam for your consideration. The United Sates military in Vietnam was the best-educated, best-trained, best-disciplined, and most successful force ever fielded in the history of American arms. Here are a few relevant comparisons:

During the Civil War at the Battle of Bull Run the entire Union Army panicked and fled the battlefield. Nothing even remotely resembling that debacle ever occurred in Vietnam.
In WWII at the Kasserine Pass in Tunisia, the Germans overran elements of the US Army. In the course of that battle, Hitler's General Rommel (The Desert Fox) inflicted 3,100 US casualties, took 3,700 US prisoners, and captured or destroyed 198 American tanks. In Vietnam no US Military units were overrun and no US Military infantry units or tank outfits were captured.
WW II again. In the Philippines, Army Generals Jonathan Wainwright and Edward King surrendered themselves and their troops to the Japanese. In Vietnam no US generals or US military units ever surrendered.
Before the Normandy invasion, "D" Day, 1944, the US Army (in WW II the US Army included the Army Air Corps which today has become the US Air Force) in England filled its own jails with American soldiers who refused to fight and then had to rent jail space from the British to handle the overflow. The US Army in Vietnam never had to rent jail space from the Vietnamese to incarcerate American soldiers who refused to fight.

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January 4th, 2006
DTop Milforum Moderator Gear	WD let me say this, there was no retreat by the American military. The withdrawal of US troops began in 1971 and it still took until April 30, 1975 for the communists to defeat the South Vietnamese. FYI zander, when I was there in 1970 there wasn't a Vietcong to be found anyhere. Honestly, I don't know where this nonsense comes from, what in the name of truth have you folks been fed in the name of information? I'd be among the first to agree that the pols didn't handle this very well and that the vociferous protestors were lead by the nose by commusnist agitators and media propagandists. But don't try to tell me that the US military was defeated or retreated, it just didn't happen. Here are some facts about the American military in Vietnam for your consideration. The United Sates military in Vietnam was the best-educated, best-trained, best-disciplined, and most successful force ever fielded in the history of American arms. Here are a few relevant comparisons: During the Civil War at the Battle of Bull Run the entire Union Army panicked and fled the battlefield. Nothing even remotely resembling that debacle ever occurred in Vietnam. In WWII at the Kasserine Pass in Tunisia, the Germans overran elements of the US Army. In the course of that battle, Hitler's General Rommel (The Desert Fox) inflicted 3,100 US casualties, took 3,700 US prisoners, and captured or destroyed 198 American tanks. In Vietnam no US Military units were overrun and no US Military infantry units or tank outfits were captured. WW II again. In the Philippines, Army Generals Jonathan Wainwright and Edward King surrendered themselves and their troops to the Japanese. In Vietnam no US generals or US military units ever surrendered. Before the Normandy invasion, "D" Day, 1944, the US Army (in WW II the US Army included the Army Air Corps which today has become the US Air Force) in England filled its own jails with American soldiers who refused to fight and then had to rent jail space from the British to handle the overflow. The US Army in Vietnam never had to rent jail space from the Vietnamese to incarcerate American soldiers who refused to fight. History of the War Stats __________________ *"I was a soldier, I am a soldier, I always will be a soldier."* To Avoid Infractions - Click Here And Read the Forum Rules Before You Post.