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August 31st, 2006   Post 21
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Luis has the nail ont he head, but...

Our school implements a dress code and is more bureaucratic about it than the U.S. military. Khaki pants, white polo shirt, I.D. at all times, clean shaven and clean haircut. BUT- we still have the same apathy problems, the same underachievements, etc. Put things in perspective, people.
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August 31st, 2006   Post 22
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Sorry but kids today dres slike thugs and whores. When I was in high school, I wore a clean crisp pair of jeans, a colored T-shirt (no images), sneakers, and a ball cap.
That's right.
I went to a private school in Adelaide and our uniform consisted of black shoes, grey pressed trousers, white shirt, blue woolen jumper, tie in the tartan of your school house, and a navy blue blazer with gold buttons and yellow (gold) piping. I think it is totally acceptable to make student wear a uniform (let alone casual wear), as it creates a level of pride in yourself and your school
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August 31st, 2006   Post 23
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i cant agree with having a dress code at public schools.
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August 31st, 2006   Post 24
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i cant agree with having a dress code at public schools.

I can to a point.... but some things go too far.
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August 31st, 2006   Post 25
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Right. We have a dress code, but its lax. Its not like uniforms without uniforms, if that makes any sense...
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August 31st, 2006   Post 26
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What is it that "the system" wants? Do they want individuals, who think for themselves even if this means they wear something you don't like? Or do you prefer somekind of standard because it is better for something?? And what is it better for?
Here I am thinking that it is about what the kid does, says and writes at school that should be graded. Do the clothes define the person or his/ her actions?
 
September 1st, 2006   Post 27
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What is it that "the system" wants? Do they want individuals, who think for themselves even if this means they wear something you don't like? Or do you prefer somekind of standard because it is better for something?? And what is it better for?
Here I am thinking that it is about what the kid does, says and writes at school that should be graded. Do the clothes define the person or his/ her actions?
The rationale for a dress code, is to foster a feeling that the school administration believes that clothing fads and clothing contests have no place in a house of learning. They try to emphasise that education is why students are there ... NOT ... a clothing store and design center where the students act like clothes horses.

Statistics partially bear them out - where a school has a dress code that is strictly enforced, students invariably score 10%-15 % higher grades and the students are better behaved.

If you were a parent, wouldn't you be in favor of that.
 
September 1st, 2006   Post 28
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The rationale for a dress code, is to foster a feeling that the school administration believes that clothing fads and clothing contests have no place in a house of learning. They try to emphasise that education is why students are there ... NOT ... a clothing store and design center where the students act like clothes horses.

Statistics partially bear them out - where a school has a dress code that is strictly enforced, students invariably score 10%-15 % higher grades and the students are better behaved.

If you were a parent, wouldn't you be in favor of that.
But Chief, a serious school knows that their emphasis lays on education, so why expect that it lays with clothing. The same goes for the grades... A school that has a dress code usually also has a stricter learning environment. It is this stricter environment that gives the students a better preparation for the uncoming test; thus a higher grade. So this is due to the system and would also work if the kids wore their own clothing.

I've had quite a few pupils for after school classes. It was this extra effort they made and extra attention they received that made them pass their exam. Once again; the way they dressed had no effect on their grade.

Of course dress codes adhere to a social environment. If you live in a slum, you won't wear a tie and sweater. If you'd live in a upperclass neigbourhood, you'd probably not wear a tank top and baggy pants... That is true. But then it is the social influence that makes for poorer results and not the clothing.
 
September 1st, 2006   Post 29
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Statistics partially bear them out - where a school has a dress code that is strictly enforced, students invariably score 10%-15 % higher grades and the students are better behaved.
I suppose the parents would be in favor paying the thousands of dollars extra to send their kids to these private schools where the dress codes are strictly enforced too. Since that is most likely what is making the difference so great. My high school scored in the top 100 in the nation for best AP Program, do we have a strict dress code? Nope. The same school according to No Child Left Behind is not reading and writing proficent, now why could this be? I will tell you, our school was a cluster site (special education) and ELL (English Language Learners, kids who just came to the country.) and according to NCLB every student has to take the exact same test, that means the spec. ed. kids were being told to do Algebra and Geometry problems when they just can't do that. We test our Junior at a Junior level for NCLB, California gets around this by testing their Juniors at a third grade level, it makes their test results look better.

Dress codes have little effect on grades, there are lurking variables at work here.
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September 1st, 2006   Post 30
Rob Henderson
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True, but a dress code, not necessarily a strict one, can sometimes improve the learning environment by eliminating the need to always worry about what you are wearing, the need to worry about wether you are up to date with the latest cool trends, etc.
 



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