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Originally Posted by Doppleganger Just some random points.
The Allies had already landed in this hypothetical scenario. Perhaps the Germans are following Guderian's advice to allow the Allied Armies to advance inland before counter-attacking. This would hopefully replicate for them the huge encirclements achieved in Russia. |
Unfortunately this is one of the few times I agree entirely with Rommel the allies needed to be thrown back from the beaches, if they managed to get established ashore then it was all over but the shouting for the Germans.
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The Luftwaffe is quite a bit stronger than historically. The Luftwaffe has very little strategic bombing capability to speak of, but it probably has, man for man, the best CAS and Air Superiority capability in the world. It certainly has the most seasoned pilots.
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To be perfectly honest I doubt that even had the Luftwaffe had all the resources of 1939-1941 at its disposal they would have been able to match the shear numbers and relatively even quality of the allied airforces.
The RAF by this stage had already been through the Battle of Britain and was probably as experienced as the Luftwaffe pilots and both the RAF and USAF were producing aircraft that were technically as good as the Luftwaffe by 1943-44.
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It has been argued that strategic bombing is only truly effective on an already defeated opponent. In this scenario that is far from the case.
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This bit is possible however by 1944 the allied bombers are being escorted all the way to Berlin by P51D's which is the equal of any German fighter so in reality the Luftwaffe would have had a serious problem trying to regain any air superiority in western europe.
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If entire US Armies are cut off in the field and destroyed, will that affect US public opinion at home to 'bring the boys home'?
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I think this scenario would have simply pissed them off more and ended up in Hitler receiving a nuke as soon as it was available.
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Likewise, if UK Armies are similarly destroyed, will Churchill be overthrown and say someone like Lord Halifax appointed who would secure a separate peace with Hitler?
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1941 - 42 maybe but 1944 not a chance the war had gone on too long and the British had survived too much by then to simply say screw it and give in.
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If the Wehrmacht is gradually pushed back to Berlin and eventually loses, the casualties for the Western Armies will probably be much higher than historically.
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I have no doubt this would have been the case and personally given this scenario and a successful attempt on Hitlers life I think a negotiated peace may have been possible but once the allies were on the ground and established in France I dont believe the Germans could have won.