March 11th, 2005  
Charge 7
Master Gunner
 
 
You contradicted yourself by saying Spain _has_ a border and then saying that the terrorists got in _by_ that border. This contradicts your belief that a border would make you all that much safer.

Also, I did _not_ say Turkey wouldn't be influential. I _did_ say it wouldn't be the _most_ influential as you said it would be. Second most by itself yes, but Germany would always have France to more than counter anything that Turkey might hold in opposition.

You people are thinking of borders in the very local sense and I am thinking of them in the much broader sense. Small borders such as the wall in Israel have a use today but are only stop gaps. I'm sure the Israelis know full well it only slows attacks it doesn't prevent them as oh so many news stories have shown us.

The point I am trying to make to you is that borders are no guarantee of safety from attack. Lessen them to an extent - sure, but to believe that having borders is somehow going to wrap you in a nice cozy blanket is living in a fool's paradise. I seriously think that by allowing Turkey into the EU you make yourselves safer in the long run. How much better is it to have a group of people as a partner than to exclude them? How much more likely are they to identify themselves with your way of life if you include them in it? Turkey could be the start of pacifying the whole Middle East in the long run. I'm very surprised those of you who decry US actions with your "liberal" views toss those ideas out the window when they are laid at your doorstep.
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