Reading post 100291 in main thread: Anyone living with or knowing a Borderline person?
March 9th, 2005  
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ohh well,nothing to worry about,since my sister is studying psyhology at school,she says that those kind of ppl arnt dangerous if u dont bother them to much,or if u dont show authority


Omg. "If you don't bother them to much?"

Now I really can't drop the subject. So I will let you in on the Borderline diagnose.

First of all, Take this test: http://www.4degreez.com/misc/persona...sorder_test.mv

Then read this: http://www.4degreez.com/misc/disorder_information2.html

For your information: I can tell you all that this is a such a wide psychological term. Read thousands of books about it. No, it doesn't mean I cut myself. Never have never will. No, I don't OD. No, I don't do impulses. Most people think that Borderline is always the worse parts of the diagnose. For my part, it was more about "shutting" off feelings. It's not easy to explain. But I can assure you all that it's not just a stamp in your @ss that goes like: Borderline - Read diagnose.

Borderline can be caused by a trauma when you're a child. It can be caused when you're older. It can also be caused over not being accepted for you, and being pushed away and turned into a "outcast". There is so many reasons that the people who study the Borderline and the causes can't really determine why it happens.

For my sake: I'm soon to be free from the diagnose. I've worked my ass off to change from this major "teenager" b*tch to a complete woman.

I'm aware that not many people know how it is to be in a situation or what it comeplete feels like. But I do think I have the right to say:

You could have made the topic alot smoother.

Other from that, damn good discussion.
Hey SilverPhoenix, let's talk about this.
I am perfectly aware what a personality disorder is all about. I have been living with a borderline person for years. It is being (it will be over in a month's time so I'm actually less stressed now) a terribly hard experience. Tell me what you will- I don't know whether your syndrome is the same as his, but one thing I know for sure: it is NOT normal.
In these years I have been learning how tremendously necessary drawing a line between normality and abnormality is.
It is vital when you are a normal person living with such a housemate.
I know for sure many psychotherapists refuse to treat borderline patients because they are manipulative.
I'll give you some examples of what it means: (like I said I DON'T know whether you do the same, but I doubt it)
He is narcisistic, histrionic, schizoid, paranoid, schizotypal, dependent, borderline and obsessive-compulsive.
He screams like h**l night and day, he practises the so-called magical thinking, which means a lot of rituals that he feel the strong need to observe before doing things. He CAN'T go to sleep before 3:30 am (his bedroom next to mine so I hear his tv everynight until 33:0). He has to switch the lights of his room, of the foyer, and of the bathroom a different amounts of time before going to bed or doing something important. Same thing with the sink taps, and also at the same time. He often leaves his bedroom naked (specially when strangers are at home, like my girlfriend or friends). We're four guys in the house. He is totally covered with fungi so disgusting to see. He often runs from bathroom to bedroom naked at night more and more times, so that his magical thinking can be respected.
Everytime he leaves the house he has to knock at the door (from the outside) with his shoulders or is foot, all this a certain number of times in a row.
You can't tell him anything about that, like scolding him, because he is looking for that. He wants to be both praised and blamed (his motherfigure is the key, but I'll be short), so if you blame him he'll begin to cry out loud and apologizing for weeks, every moment of the day, and that will make prevent you from doing that again in the future.
He eats cheese and butter ONLY.
He is extremely dirty and messy, because of his magical committments towards what we call an omnipervasive spirit he can't throw nothing away. Absolutely nothing. At times the fridge stinks because of that.
And he screams at night, and he runs in the house. And it's not that cool when you are walking back home at night and see your houselights flashing ON and OFF from room to room like a Xmas Tree.
Live this way for years, and then tell me I could have made this topic smoother.
Oh did I tell you he locks himself up everynight and sleeps with a hammer under his bed?
It's easy to make a topic smoother then the headline it has. Yes, I have lived with borderline people for years. Both in a psychitatric hospital, and now 1½ at this treatment home.

Now, for your comment here:

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I know for sure many psychotherapists refuse to treat borderline patients because they are manipulative.
Then they must have a low experience with BPD. Because I seriously believe there is help down there for BPD persons as well. I'm not going to jump on you here, but you're friend is not nearly as bad as those others I've seen. I've lived with people likes this since I was 17-18. If not even before that, because I've been in contact with the psychiatric hospital since I was 11. Now, for me that guy doesn't sound so bad. But picture living with people having this problem and you get to see this people getting strapped onto a bed and getting a injection with tranquilizers. To not to talk about the effort and **** the wardens have to stand with by just getting the person down on the bed.

But what I do can get annoyed in your text about, is that you make the different diagnosis part sound like it's average and common.

It's a wide term. Don't lay the discussion like every BPD person is manipulative. And as far as I'm concerned about this, I really think you should read a bit more about the diagnose before pointing out how BPD people are.

That's my two cents.

And it's not my intention to jump on your back here. But you miss out a great part of the whole disorder that I have had and other people suffer from.
 
 
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