Topic: A-10 survivability 2

the_13th_redneck · January 27th, 2005

Actually why not have that as a main weapon? It *does* blow up tanks right?

MadeInChina · January 27th, 2005

um... new tank, 1 30mm gau cannon and one 125mm A-89 tank cannon

the advantage of this is that the 30mm will keep support and disdurb the enemy while the main gun finishes the gun off

ummm... ( sends idea to chinese military) hehe

Whispering Death · January 27th, 2005

Actually, I think the gun might cause too much recoil for a tank.

the_13th_redneck · January 27th, 2005

Install a compensation rocket. haha.

EOD · January 27th, 2005

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Originally Posted by AA

um... new tank, 1 30mm gau cannon and one 125mm A-89 tank cannon

the advantage of this is that the 30mm will keep support and disdurb the enemy while the main gun finishes the gun off

ummm... ( sends idea to chinese military) hehe

For a tank / AFV gun you dod not need such a high rate of fire, the same cartridge is fired by the new Bushmaster gun in 30mm which will be in US service soon, even though they will not use DU and the new ammo has steel cased cartridges (GAU-8A has aluminum for weight reasons).
The GAU-8A is as it is becasue when attacking from air you have only extreme little time on target and this is when high rate of fire is needed to bring in as many projectiles as possible (same as air defense).
Further 30mm was suitable those days because the target is attacked from above where the armor was traditionally the weakest (has changed in recent years - in proper armies). It will not make a good tank gun because you will still have to attack the enemy tank from the front / side where the armor is way too strong for evan a 30mm DU projectile.
The A-10 was supposed to be phased out but got a second chance after they figured that tanks in tin can republics still the old crap from the 50s-70s is being used and that future conflicts will not be between overarmed super powers but with terrorists and small tyrannic kingdoms. This is what the A-10 is still good for.

the_13th_redneck · January 27th, 2005

I don't see the A-10 being phased out because there's simply no other plane like it. If it is phased out, it's for budget reasons.
But the A-10 has showed incredible survivability to paperwork as well

Whispering Death · January 27th, 2005

The A-10 isn't due to be phased out until 2028

German guy - I think you're forgetting that the A-10 also had 11 hardpoints capable of carrying up to 10 Maverick Missiles that can kill any tank at a range of up to 45km. So even if tanks can stop the rounds from its cannon, one A-10 can take out 10 tanks and have lots and lots of chaingun ammo left to use on APCs, LAVs, buildings, troops, bunkers, etc.

Very very useful machine that isn't going to be gone for a long time.

EOD · January 27th, 2005

Was saying it was supposed to be phased out and it got changed.
No need to convince me.

Big_Z · January 27th, 2005

A current tank will stop a 30mm DU round, not 400 or 500 hundred of them which a A-10 can spit out in under a minute. Their rate of fire is insane, when you hear them letting off rounds it almost sounds continuous, there is no "boom boom boom" or "tutututut".

Whispering Death · January 27th, 2005

Just a beautiful Humm

I saw a demonstration of its cannon at an airshow in 99' and that's when I knew I was never going to hear a more beautiful sound

God I'm so envious of the guys who get to see that thing work in actual combat.

January 27th, 2005	Post 11
the_13th_redneck No Chance Outside Gear	Actually why not have that as a main weapon? It does blow up tanks right? __________________ I don't exist. TRESPASSERS WILL BE PROSTITUTED Next time you travel http://www.epictrip.com

January 27th, 2005	Post 12
MadeInChina Primus Pilus	um... new tank, 1 30mm gau cannon and one 125mm A-89 tank cannon the advantage of this is that the 30mm will keep support and disdurb the enemy while the main gun finishes the gun off ummm... ( sends idea to chinese military) hehe __________________ A signature is a little text that can be added at the bottom of the posts you make. It\'s limited to 300 characters (size 7 to 12) on 5 line(s) and 1 image(s) with none larger than 100x500 pixels and for a maximum of 20Kb. In your text, no more than 100 characters without space too.

January 27th, 2005	Post 13
Whispering Death Tribuni Angusticlavii Gear	Actually, I think the gun might cause too much recoil for a tank.

January 27th, 2005	Post 14
the_13th_redneck No Chance Outside Gear	Install a compensation rocket. haha.

January 27th, 2005	Post 16
the_13th_redneck No Chance Outside Gear	I don't see the A-10 being phased out because there's simply no other plane like it. If it is phased out, it's for budget reasons. But the A-10 has showed incredible survivability to paperwork as well

January 27th, 2005	Post 17
Whispering Death Tribuni Angusticlavii Gear	The A-10 isn't due to be phased out until 2028 German guy - I think you're forgetting that the A-10 also had 11 hardpoints capable of carrying up to 10 Maverick Missiles that can kill any tank at a range of up to 45km. So even if tanks can stop the rounds from its cannon, one A-10 can take out 10 tanks and have lots and lots of chaingun ammo left to use on APCs, LAVs, buildings, troops, bunkers, etc. Very very useful machine that isn't going to be gone for a long time.

January 27th, 2005	Post 18
EOD Guest	Was saying it was supposed to be phased out and it got changed. No need to convince me.

January 27th, 2005	Post 19
Big_Z Primus Pilus Gear	A current tank will stop a 30mm DU round, not 400 or 500 hundred of them which a A-10 can spit out in under a minute. Their rate of fire is insane, when you hear them letting off rounds it almost sounds continuous, there is no "boom boom boom" or "tutututut".

January 27th, 2005	Post 20
Whispering Death Tribuni Angusticlavii Gear	Just a beautiful Humm I saw a demonstration of its cannon at an airshow in 99' and that's when I knew I was never going to hear a more beautiful sound God I'm so envious of the guys who get to see that thing work in actual combat.