About 0211 Counter-Intelligence Specialist
|March 26th, 2007||#1|
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0211 Counter-Intelligence Specialist info
|March 26th, 2007||#2|
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0211 isn't an entry level MOS in the Marine Corps. You have to be an E-4 or an E-5.
Maybe one of the Marines on here can correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Corps guarantee the careerfield only, not the specific MOS?
Ut ceteri vivant.
|March 26th, 2007||#3|
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I know that its not entry level but the way it was explained to me was that it could still be given to me but I would just wait until I was an E-4 and until that time I would be doing 0231 work.
|March 26th, 2007||#4|
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|March 26th, 2007||#5|
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I dreamsheeted over from 03 to 02 way back when in the long ago days.
Started out as OJT for 0251 then ended up as 0231 for a couple years. The 0211's used to hang out in our shop quite often. From what I was able to gather from the conversations and bitching sessions (everyone complains about their job. It's all part of the life style lol), 11s spent most of their time either making camouflage netting or teaching others how to deploy such netting.
I do recall conversations about some of the cool training they got, such as lock picking and covert room searching etc etc... sounded a bit James Bondage.
As an 0231, you will have as good an understanding of what's going on in your AO and the world in general, in regards to the enemy present or suspected in the future.
There was no James Bondage type stuff going on with any of the 31 shops I was assigned to, it was all about studying the enemy, learning about the enemy, reading up on the day to day doings of the enemy... and quite often, being in charge of the piss testing for drug screens :/
Much and lots have changed since the mid '80s though so I have no real clue on who does what any more in the intel field.
But, going with the Sun Tzu sayings, spending time as an 0231 was a real eye opener for this grunt.
|March 26th, 2007||#6|
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As for the recruiting offers and time in the fleet requirements, much is changing or has already changed and there may be a "needs of the Corps" memo out adding even more changes...so you'd need someone dealing with recruiting currently to give up to date scoop.
That'd be my best guess anyway.
|March 27th, 2007||#7|
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From my understanding they can guarantee the MOS field but not the actualy MOS.
Take me for instance, I went through boot specced in my MOS as a 3000 series, Supply. Once I got out of boot they specced me to my actual MOS 3043. Until you complete boot camp and MCT you will be a 0200. The Marine Corps will spec you out to the MOS you need.
Now in the Intel field maybe there is a little more leeway. I know a Sgt friend of mine just lat-moved from 3043 to 0211. That is a fast track MOS.
Remember, recruiters have a list that comes out that shows all the hotfills and shortfalls of the Marine Corps. They try to fill some of those slots with what they call an Alpha Male (Grad, High ASVAB score, no bad background) etc etc.
Best bet, decide what you want to do and do not let him tell you different. If he does go see a different recruiter or go to a different branch.
|March 27th, 2007||#8|
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I scored an 88 on my ASVAB will graduate on June 7th and dont have a single thing on my record. The way its been told to me is that "The needs of the Marine Corps are more important then meeting the rank requirement for jobs." Either way I've already joined the Marine Corps and am slotted for an intel job and Im just glad that I can serve in the Marine Corps.
|February 24th, 2009||#10|
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I realize it is now almost two years after you posted your question, but no Marines responded with accurate, up to date information. Because of this, I wanted to help out in case people come along in the future looking for help on this topic.
First, I am not in the Intel field, but I have done extensive research on the matter (specifically 0211 and 0251), and I believe everything I have to say is accurate.
You must be a Corporal or Sergeant to lat-move into 0211. They do not fill the slots for '11s with lower ranks (except very rarely Lance Corporals) or for higher ranks (occasionally Staff Sergeants). They do not give this contract to first-time enlistees.
If you are given the 0200 field when you enlist, as the original poster was, then you will more than likely be assigned 0231, Intel Specialist. From there you are eligible to lat-move to 0211 once you pick up the rank of Cpl and meet the other requirements.
In terms of getting a guaranteed specific MOS upon enlisting, yes this is possible. It is rare, but if the recruiter pulls enough strings and plays all his cards right, it can happen. I have a few friends whom this happened with. However, I also have a few friends who were given a "guaranteed contract" with a specific MOS, only to have it be changed during boot camp or MCT. Everything is always based on the needs of the Marine Corps. But yes, it is possible to get a guaranteed MOS. This happens more frequently for reservists. Also, this will never happen with an MOS that has a rank requirement upon entering (such as 0211).
Hope this helps any future men or women who are interested in 0211.
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